Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen (10/24/11), tipped off by at least one of his Post colleagues, decided to pay a visit to Liberty Plaza to see the festival of antisemitism firsthand. Lo and behold, he found none:
Reckless Jew that I am, I muscled my way into the Occupy Wall Street encampment in Lower Manhattan despite multiple reports of virulent and conceivably lethal antisemitism. Projecting an unvarnished Semitism, I circled the place, encountering nothing and no one to suggest bigotry—not a sign, not a book and not even the guy who some weeks ago held up a placard with the instruction to google the phrase “Zionists control Wall St.” Google “nut case” instead.
Before you send your note of thanks to Cohen, wait until he gets to his real point:
This right-wing attempt to discredit both the Occupy Wall Street movement and the Democratic Party’s hesitant embrace of it is reprehensible. It’s made possible, however, because no one this side of the Moon knows precisely what the Occupy Wall Street movement is trying to do. On a daily basis it marches off to some location to highlight what we all know—that Wall Street guys are rich—and their slogans suggest a tired socialism that is as repugnant to me as the felonious capitalism that produced the mortgage bubble and the impoverishment of millions of Americans.
Cohen goes on to call Occupy Wall Street “a destination for the aimless…a tourist attraction with the usual vendors, the usual zaftig young women doing the usual arrhythmic dance, somehow missing the beat of many drums.” It is also
a media event that has captured the flea-thoughts of many Americans…an incoherent articulation of anger at the institutions that have failed us, including—by way of both self-pity and self-flagellation—the media. It seems, above all, a conspiracy to have left-leaning writers make jackasses of themselves by imparting grave and grand meaning to what is little more than a vast sleepover.
For good measure, Cohen makes the argument that the right-wing smears of OWS are derived from the left:
The imputation of antisemitism, however, adds gravitas to this lighthearted event. The smear is in deadly earnest, a reminder that the devious tactics of the Old Left have been adopted by the New Right. (No accident, maybe, that the practitioners are the descendants of lefties.)
Well, he was on the right track with that first paragraph.
Liberal philistinism revisited: Richard Cohen on Syriana
What distinguishes Syriana from the vast majority of recent American studio productions is precisely its effort to â┚¬Ã…“stick to the facts,â┚¬Ã‚ the harsh truth about US machinations in the Middle East, its ruthless and criminal effort to gain dominance over global oil reserves.
Cohen sees things otherwise. Incredibly, he writes, â┚¬Ã…“The Iraq war is not the product of oil avarice, or CIA evil, but of a surfeit of altruism, a naive compulsion to do good. That entire collection of neo- and retro-conservativesâ┚¬”ÂGeorge W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and particularly Paul Wolfowitzâ┚¬”Âmade war not for oil or for empire but to end the horror of Saddam Hussein and, yes, reorder the Middle East.â┚¬Ã‚Â
Yes, this crowd practically brims with altruismâ┚¬”Âthe empty and sadistic Bush; the unsmiling state thug Cheney; Rumsfeld, a lifelong cog in the war machine; the neo-conservative conspirator Wolfowitz. â┚¬Ã…“A naive compulsion to do good?â┚¬Ã‚ One shudders. The present administration in Washington, which came to power through the hijacking of a national election, brought with it the morals of Enron and WorldCom. It embodies the ascendancy of the political underworld to the highest positions of power. What is Cohen talking about?
What is one to say about Cohen? The style is the man. The sloppiness, crudity and essential emptiness of his outlook emerges in his column. Nowhere does he prove any of his contentions. He makes bald assertions and feels confident that no one will call him to account….–Davd Walsh
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/dec2005/coh-d28.shtml
“The smear is in deadly earnest, a reminder that the devious tactics of the Old Left have been adopted by the New Right.” Why yes, we all remember that Nazism was the Old Left – if we read Jonah Goldberg, at least. And all those famous anti-Semites in the Old Left like Trotsky and Emma Goldman! This is why we need the mainstream media, because only professionals know their history and are carefully fact-checked.
More on the pernicious role Cohen’s played in our endless wars:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jan2009/pers-j28.shtml
Washington Post’s Richard Cohen offers â┚¬Ã…“liberalâ┚¬Ã‚ case for Lewis Libby’s freedom:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jun2007/cohe-j20.shtml
Media pundits in lockstep behind US war drive:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/feb2003/iraq-f08.shtml
Cohen’s a modern-day Julius Streicher:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher
Can’t you just imagine the smugness writ large across Cohen’s visage as he stroked his last key on this piece of putrid agitprop?
Well, you can imagine.
I’ve got too weak a stomach.
Is it evidence of anti-Semitism to question propaganda delivered by a Semite that avoids any connect with reality?
Does Cohen defend his own dishonesty and unfounded sense of persecution as a Semitic trait?
If he does, then he does a great disservice to the Jews of my acquaintance; in that case he demands that that all character flaws identified in Jews must be accepted without comment because this is all that can be expected from them.
Love them, love their flaws is a generous bias supporting a privilege graciously given to a handicapped person, such as a seat on public transportation for the disabled: not just for being a Jew.
Here are altruistic ol’ Rummy’s choices to be his top four assistants:
1. Paul Wolfowitz, who as Deputy Defense Secretary and member of the Defense Policy Board created and held fast for years to the most baseless and ridiculous predictions of the Iraq war, that mass-destruction weapons would be found, that US soldiers would be welcomed with open arms as liberators, and that reconstruction could be financed from Iraqi oil revenues.
2. Richard Perle, a probable Israeli agent who after having been expelled from Senator Henry Jackson’s office in the 1970’s for passing highly-classified national security documents to the Israeli Embassy, became the U.S. Defense Policy Board Chairman and DOD’s most ardent warmonger.
3. Douglas Feith, who had been Perle’s special council, had maintained a law office in Israel that represented Israeli armaments manufacturers, and had been closely associated with an extremist group, The Zionist Organization of America. No problem with that, really, except that as Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, Feith flat-out lied to his superiors and to the American public as part of an effort to start a war on behalf of Israel.
7. Kenneth Adelman, who sat on the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board under Perle and was yet another extremist pro-Israel advisor who supported going to war against Iraq. He was a frequently is a guest on Fox News, where he expressed ridiculous anti-Arab and anti-Muslim views.
“Richard Cohen: Clueless, Repugnant”
Fixed
Queston, You know who’s really just clueless & repugnant? Answer, Richard Cohen.
Maybe Richard Cohen should try going to https://www.nycga.net/, the website of OWS, to see the document they have created and the many comments there. He is certainly the repugnant one here.
Wait a minute, was Marx chinese?
Whether so intended by the individual writers or not, one potential function of the outrage and inventions written and shouted (on shout radio) about OWS is to divide the 99% or keep it divided.
There are many lines of division in that large a chunk of a society, economic especially though overlapping with racial/ethnic; but when poll numbers indicate such overwhelming support for the basic message about inequality being out of control and greed running the show to the detriment of darn near everyone (those seem to be the core messages) the usual attempts with every “wedge issue” and with some new ones have to be redoubled by the desperate whose game stand revealed and openly discussed as rarely before.
What is missing here is the fact that many jews in Israel are not Semitic, unlike all Arabs who are.
>> It’s made possible, however, because no one this side of the Moon knows precisely what the Occupy Wall Street movement is trying to do.
Because the problem of noise and chaos for the average person the lack of power, the lack of information for so long, and the constant bombardment in lies and information designed to make people feel anxious and fearful for so long has made the problem very difficult to define.
The problem to me is that most people on this planet do not have human rights. Most people do not benefit from the 2000 years of civilization human beings have compiled. WE have a well developed moral code in almost every civilization that is completely ignored or worse perverted, like the legal code and the economic system to serve a small number of people who are evolved such a sense of entitlement that they spend billions in unproductive industries to dominate and control the rest of the planet – and everyone is sick of it, but has their own idiosyncratic views on it, mostly blaming some group for their oppression but unable to see that answer is in liberty, fraternity and equality as the French would put it.
It is really that simple. No one is saying people who are extraordinary should not be recognized, or compensated – even lauded, but the people of the world who have that power are the absolute worst, most criminal, vicious hateful controlling hypocritic people around … how do you put that in words, and how do you do something about it … well, it ain’t so easy in my opinion.
Sorry guys but no dice.There “WERE”lots of anti semitic signs.As we speak I do not see any.Where they went is really the only discussion here.
After weeks of this I think i begin to see form taking shape.I think in the past people marched for the right to equal opportunity.Now they march with a demand for equal result.The noted end to the creation of a nanny state.
Writing about the that which you do not understand, with the pretense of being all-knowing is a sure sign
of biased writing.
Dod Cohen actually speak to those he was observing or did he come to his conclusions of why the occupiers were there through osmosis.
OK. I criticize my govt. I criticize the Brits’. It’s very popular to criticize the French for anything and everything they do. And so on. No one seems to object whether statements are opinion or fact. But, if anyone utters a word about the reality of the brutality of the Israeli government or even hints of any else they do that might seem to be negative, Whoa! You are immediately decried as “anti-semitic.”
I agree that signs saying “Zionists control Wall Street” are probably not factual, but if you add: “there are some Zionists in control of Wall Street” it could well be true. Note that they were removed very, very quickly. However, either statement would be decried as “anti-semitic” immediately.
Agreed, to hold an entire group accountable for the actions of a few is not only wrong, it’s stupid. However, this seems to be what Richard Cohen was doing when he went to the OWS in search of rampant anti-semitism. He must have been very disappointed not to find it. Hard to believe that the OWS took care of the matter without the help of AIPAC and Richard Cohen.
The one thing you can give Cohen credit for is his ease in back door reich wing slant. First say you are in support of the OWS but then by the end of the story you have condemned them with faint praise. Like the fake apologies we get all the time. They start out as apologies but by the end of it they have undercut their own initial argument.
>> But, if anyone utters a word about the reality of the brutality of the Israeli
>> government or even hints of any else they do that might seem to be negative,
>> Whoa! You are immediately decried as “anti-semitic.”
Yeah, it’s all a big worldwide plot to take over the Middle East … have you noticed
how large Israel is getting over the years?
Israel is Israel, just as its neighbors are what they are … that is, very hostile and
militant against Israel and the Jews. To complain about Israel being brutal in
isolation from Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Palestinians, etc is either to be totally
biased, anti-semitic or just ignorant. It is a war, and it is not a war Israel wants,
the end of which is not in their control. Time is not on Israel’s side so it is not
Israel that is refusing the negotiate, they just have to consider them enemy and
their inablity to keep their word or refrain from violence, even against each other
for the minutest of timespans.
I find this grouping of the Middle East situation as far as blaming Israel for
everything getting associated with the left to be the most bizarre thing. I think
it is a disinformation plot to put Liberals and Progressives on the wrong side
of something that is completely repugnant in order to “bad-jacket” Liberals
with support of what are terrorists, ie. the Palestinians – just as Liberals have
been “bad-jacketed” by their supposed socialistic policies by associating
the word socialism with everything from the Nazis to the Russians to North
Korea.
This is how the left is broken up and fragmented – this is brainwashing and
mind-control in my opinion.
Brux – I think you missed the point. Perhaps if I spoke clearly you might get it. One or two people who display anti-Jewish/Zionist signs do not speak for the entire group. In fact, the group effectively removed the offending signs and persons. I would think that this would be a moment of rejoicing. Instead, Richard Cohen and several others decided it was time for a witch hunt.
Now, who did you say was being brainwashed?
Liz I think YOU missed the point…It was way more than one or two signs.On one day it was a veritable sea of them.Yes they are gone.But I see the same people who carried them still out there, just with different signs.Do you think they had an epiphany .or were they told to tone it down?They did a poll out there that asked-” do you think there is a strong Jewish influence on wall street”The majority said yes.That alone is a racist position.I have seen that sort of slide all to often on these blogs.It is an ugly carbuncle on the left to even think this way.But no one need convince you.The answer is still there.Do your own poll.Go to one of these demonstrations and ask “Do the jews run wall street?Then…ARGUE WITH THEM!
@michael e: This is what you wrote on an eariler thread regarding anti-semitic signage: “[The] first day was a few.Second day much more.Third day i saw was less(i counted 16).After that it has seemed to decrease.It is still there as we speak ,but I get the feeling it is frowned upon as too blatant.This idea of a zionist conspiracy or jewish power in US government as well as wall street is far more acceptable on the left, than the right.”
So where’s this veritable sea of them you’re referring to? Is it the few of the 1st day? Is it much more? Is it 16? Do you even know?
As pointed out before, you are often here on an anti-hypocrisy soapbox trying to tell us to ignore that Nobel-laureate economist who calls for increasing certain taxes because he/she didn’t overpay on their own taxes. Or you’re telling us that Biden, Clinton, and certain other liberal politicians are actually Scrooge MacDuck and go swimming in their vault of gold coins instead of giving to charity or buying food and donating it to the Army or something. All these tirades on under the cry of don’t listen to the hypocrite.
Now, the Tea Party has had similar issues with people at its gatherings being blatantly racist– look it up, it’s on frickin’ wikipedia for cryin’ out loud. And the Tea Party has justifiably pointed out that in a decentralized and largely leaderless movement, certain idiots are bound to come out with their idiotic messages, and that the entire movement should not be unfairly tainted by the flaws of some of its members. Do realize that you are doing the exact same thing here to OWS that is considered unjustifiable when done to the Tea Party? What’s more, you’re implying that there is some infleunce being exerted to disguise this rampant anti-semitism. And the position you’ve adopted is pure hypocrisy.
So sauce for the goose being sauce for the gander, I think it’s only fair to say that you, as a Tea Partier are probably racist, or at least tolerant of racism, and the only reason we don’t see more blatant racism in the Tea Party is that the rest of the members have told them to keep it under their hats until they take power and then they can reveal themselves and it’ll be too late. Furthermore, since hypocrites can be dismissed, I submit that nothing you write here is worth the paper it’s misspelled on.
By the way: where is this “poll” that “they” did that you mention? Care to post a link? Are you sure this “poll” wasn’t just you coming up with ideas off the top of your head one day?
Believe whatever you want John.Go to a tea party rally and ask “Do the jews run wall street”?Go to a pee party rally on wall street and ask the same question.Then we can call this case closed when you see how those answers fly.Do it now,today.See FOR YOURSELF!
As far as raising taxes even Clinton said no way.Only a nit wit would do so in these times.
As I told you…..the first day I was there I saw some signs.By the second day their were many more.Here there and everywhere.But the sentiment was being openly shouted.
I have never………..repeat never -seen such things at a tea party rally.Are there nuts at those rallies.Laws of averages say yes.But i have never seen such filth and disregard for other people as I experienced at the great pee party rebellion.Some days were really low.Thank God the press ignores much of it.They could slam it to high heaven.
Im Sorry John I did answer you .FAIR seems to blocking my comments.
John the second day i was there I counted 16 within my sight.Ok It aint a sea(though very bad).But lets be fair.You libs find one anti black tea party rally sign in a rally in Indiana ,and away you go.Ah ha….they are all racists.I have seen signs that were “nut signs” on you tube showing TP rally’s.Never in person.
As far as raising taxes ,even Clinton scoffs at it.I guess he and I are just plain stupid.And by the by….Clinton alone among those hypocrites was a charitable giver.Obama and Biden never gave until elected.
While it is true the question(Do jews run wall street)has never been asked at a tea party rally, it has been asked at the pee party.With the answer being a resounding yes.That answer is “resoundingly “racist. You tell me that sentiment is not strong on the left and I will listen.Im telling you i have NEVER heard it voiced in tea party circles.
As far as me being racist…..has it occurred to you that I may be a black jew?How are you profiling me?I have never stated my race here, though once i gave my religion.How do you you see me?Go on give me your race compartmentalization.Classic
As far as a poll… you are in luck.Do your own.Go down and ask those folks if the jewish involvement on wall street is out of balance.Your answers will im sure be no different from the answers everybody else is getting.
Well Jim what happens is I write a blog, and submit it.It does not go in.Yet if i resend it- it says “duplicate comment”.I have written John 3x with the same run around.I will contact FAIR to see what gives soon
@michael e: If you highlight the text of your post, right-click it and copy it, you can save it and post it later when the FAIR censor goes to sleep.
You seem to have no problems explaining why you can’t address the arguments when your posts miraculously manage to get through. Odd you wouldn’t just re-type your orignal response instead of telling me that you had this great answer that woulda put me in place once-and-for-all, but it didn’t get posted.
Who are you, Fermat or something?
It is strange.Im not even saying it is a censor.It seems to be tied to length of comment because it is immediate.I will contact fair…
I will try a short one.
Again by the second day ,16 signs in my sight line.Not a sea, but even one at a tea party gathering would label all of us anti semites the world over.And the question(poll) has been given to the crowds by many outlets(Do the jews run wall street)It’s answer has been a resounding yes Im afraid.You can go down yourself and ask it.No need to have it second hand.That is not a tea party belief sir.I am confident the answer there would be derision over the very question.
Are there nuts at tea party rallies.Im sure there are.
Um as far as calling me a racist……How in the hell do you know Im not a black jew?At the least you are profiling me because of my beliefs.I suppose Mr Kane would suffer the same derision if he was faceless on this blog sheet.
@michael e: So there was never a veritable sea of signs and you were lying, then?
And this imaginary poll you cite sounds awesome.
And for the whatever time, it is irrelevant to any point I am making, or any point you are failing to make, that the Tea Party would be excoriated for similar signage. It doesn’t make it OK for you to characterize OWS as anti-semitic. Especially when you’re doing so with your lies (“sea of [signs]) and with your made-up polls (and until you cite a source, I’m gonna insist that this poll was just you sitting around the house one day and pulling facts outta thin air; post a link and prove me wrong). And it further illustrates the hypocrisy you usually rail against– when it suits your purpose to do so.
If there is some reason that the Tea Party’s stricter media scrutiny justifies your inaccurate impression of OWS’s anti-semitism and your pure speculation that the left in general is more tolerant of anti-semitism, you have yet to allude to that reason. You just repeat, as nauseum, that if this had happened at a Tea Party event, people would be up in arms. So what? Why does that make it OK to make the allegations you make? Two wrongs make a right? What?
I called you a racist or a racist sympathizer as a rhetorical device to illustrate a point. You missed that point. By a mile. I ain’t gonna repeat myself. Feel free to have another go, though.
And what the hell does Charles Foster Kane have to do with any of this? But seriously: you really missed my point on the racist thing. Give it another read or two and see if it sinks in.
I take that back–it turns out we have blocked some of michael e’s comments, though not on purpose. I went go through the website’s automatic spamcatcher for the past week or so and found several posts from him that were mistakenly recognized as spam–they should be visible now. (The only other comments that were erroneously blocked, as far as I noticed, were trackbacks from ourselves–I unblocked those as well.)
I’m not sure why these got blocked–they didn’t have any links in them, which sometimes holds up comments. The spamcatcher is supposed to learn when you correct it, though I’m not sure how smart it is really–I’ve been taking FAIR Blog links out of the spam pile for years now, and it still puts them there sometimes. We’re in the process of updating our website, which will use a newer and hopefully smarter version of WordPress.
Thanks Jim.I appreciate the prompt attention.
John have I said all liberals are anti semitic?No i have not.When I was there in new York I saw this .I was disheartened by the attitude of too many of the protestors.In my sight line were 16 signs.I did not have a huge sightline by the way.That is 16 too many en total.We can agree no?They were horrible.Caricatures of “bankers with big noses being hung.Real Nazi stuff.I waited for people to shout to take them down.Instead they cheered about it.Very disheartening.Things of that sort.
I did not invent Jews run wall street.Im pretty sure the tea party leadership did not either.People who say that ,or post that, or protest that ,should be tracked as far as their political affiliation.Wherever those cards fall i will stand against it.If you want to join me in saying the very notion of it is horrific in it’s very premise ,then welcome to the good side..On these blogs I see a massive anti israel bent.Again call me wrong.I ask you again.Where you live, i am sure there is one of these demonstrations going on.Ask the question “do jews run wall street”.To those who say yes, I hope you are up to the fight.I here by deputize you.
As far as calling me a liar,or Fermat(you were wrong about that too),this is classic liberalism.The art of personal attack.Your president is a master.Bush by comparison a total gentleman.Really need to clean that act up.
“You as a tea partier are probably racist or at least tolerant of …”I think it sunk in fine John.
@michael e: No, doc, you missed the point by a mile. Here it is again, although I don’t know why I bother…
1. It’s not right to characterize the Tea Party as racist just because there’s some lunatic fringe in it that is. You state as much yourself in an earlier post now visible.
2. However, you seem to feel it’s OK to characterize OWS as anti-semitic because of some lunatic fringe in it that is.
3. You’re peddling this viewpoint of yours here with lies and exaggerations– no sea of signs, and a “poll” you just can’t seem to prove exists– although you invite me to go ask them myself. I got an idea: you alleged this poll existed, you freakin’ prove it– don’t shift the burden to me to disprove your unsupportable generalizations. All you gotta do is post a link and I’ll gladly retract my statements about it.
4. Simultaneously espousing viewpoints 1 and 2 is incredibly hypocritical. You usually rail against hypocrisy and advocate ignoring these hypocrites regardless of qualification.
All this adds up to #5:
5. So what I did was take your unfair view of OWS and give you a taste of your own medicine by unfairly painting you as a racist because of Tea Party affiliation. Note, however, I did it without lying about seas of signs at Tea Party rallies or making up poll results that fit my worldview. Furthermore, I tried to point out the logical weakness in your “ignore the hypocrite” tirades by advocating that you should be ignored because of the hypocrisy inherent in your position. Get it now?
Like I said, it was a rhetorical technique. You missed it. Stick to medicine, doc.
John you keep saying that i am painting OWS as anti semitic.You are wrong.I said there was a strong showing in that direction (for a time),and it was a disgrace.I also noted that it seems to of been shut down from within -and that is a good thing.Many are saying that it never was.All I said is it damn well happened.
We could have an interesting discussion on the so called lunatic fringe of the tea party.The tea party is nothing more than belief in the constitution and traditional American values.I actually believe that few Americans disagree with the tea party ideals.The disconnect is simple political mudslinging.So within that total are there nuts?Hell yes.If you are only talking about those who show up at rallies(the Obama haters…Religious people….guys picking up girls….and normal folks who just see the slippery slide away from what we need,I would say probably there too.Notice how many tea party people have been arrested.Or pee in the streets.Or the filth.No blocking commerce or peoples rights.Really exemplary.
And further i would say the actual platform/ideal of liberalism is lunacy.Forget the people.
I finally realized you keep asking for a poll.You are talking about people being asked about Jews running wall street?Are you telling me you first heard about this from me?That is impossible.Really explain.Or are you just breaking my chops?If you really never heard this before and need good article i may do it for you(the leg work).I hope it is because you care and not just for argument sake.
MSNBC did a story about corp headhunters wading into the OWS crowds looking to fill jobs.I guess they though it was the great untapped honey pot that could fill all their needs.Um ….not so much.Wanna know how many qualified folks laughed at the very notion of working for a big corp?Lets just say the great job fair met with hoots instead of thanks.Total unmitigated disaster.Instead they collect ,and protest ,and learn yoga while it cost the cities fortunes in police overtime.Something is wrong John.I applaud people who yell about high tuitions.GO TO THE SCHOOLS.Angry about wall street bailouts?GO TO THE WHITE HOUSE.Angry about the lousy Economy?WHITE HOUSE AGAIN.Yell at the puppet master not the puppets.And the puppet master is Obama.Wall street plays by the laws and regulations handed down to them.As good or bad that is it lays with our legislators.With our president.Where are the OWS crowds blocking traffic near the white house?
@michael e: Here are your quotes from this thread alone:
“They did a poll out there that asked-” do you think there is a strong Jewish influence on wall street”The majority said yes.That alone is a racist position.I have seen that sort of slide all to often on these blogs.It is an ugly carbuncle on the left to even think this way.”
——————————————-
Go to a tea party rally and ask “Do the jews run wall street”?Go to a pee party rally on wall street and ask the same question.Then we can call this case closed when you see how those answers fly.
——————————————-
Yeah, silly me. I can’t imagine where I got the idea that you were painting OWS as anti-semitic.
I don’t care how exemplary and well-behaved the little conformists in the Tea Party were. It is irrelevant to how that somehow makes it OK to level all the charges you levelled while ignoring your own hypocrisy in doing so.
Yes, I am asking for a link to this poll. I am doing so because you cited it in this sentence:
“They did a poll out there [at the OWS protests] that asked-” do you think there is a strong Jewish influence on wall street”The majority said yes.”
You didn’t say there is some “undercurrent of thought,” or some “nebulous idea,” you said there was a poll of the OWS that reported that a majority of them agree that Jews run Wall St. No, it is not the first time I’ve heard the idea of Jews controlling Wall St.– or some other institution or government or the media for that matter. But you didn’t refer to it as an abstract conspiratorial idea. You said “they” did a “poll.” As near as I can tell, you made this up. It is reasonable to conclude that you made it up in order to paint the OWS movement as anti-semitic. I’ve been repeatedly asking for a link to the poll– not some article about anti-semitism in general. You cited a poll that allegedly says most OWS protesters agree with the idea that Jews run Wall St. I say you’re lying about it. Post a link and prove me wrong.
Jesus John not to get personal ,but this is like dealing with a child.You demand me to find the people who were taking the poll while I was there.You call me a liar.Say i am throwing the anti semitic card.Say i am making things up.You parse words ,and play semantics.Should I really dignify this low brow style of yours?Just take your little fingers and type in DO JEWS RUN WALL STREET.A plethora of articles will pop up.If your inclined, track those articles.Many of course are tied to the protest.As i stood there it seems to me that there were people from the ADL asking this question.Fox reporters were following and talking to those doing the poll.CBS was polling “is money fairly/evenly distributed in this country(strange since it is not distributed at all)My answer to one college poller was simple.The real problem is not between the top 1% and the 99% that is everybody else.The real separation in opportunity and outcome ,is between college grads, and those who have not gone to that level.Maybe Ows should shift.Those with high school degrees protest those with a college degree.Aint madness grand?So tell me what you come up with.If you can prove I made this up…..well I have more pull than i thought.