The second thing NPR wants you to know about Hillary Clinton and foreign policy—after “she’s Experienced”—is “she’s more hawkish than President Obama.” White House correspondent Scott Horsley (All Things Considered, 5/17/16) says:
Clinton is less reticent when it comes to deploying military force than President Obama. While she hasn’t advocated large-scale ground operations, she has pushed for the creation of “safe zones” in Syria, and she was a strong advocate for the US military intervention in Libya.
So Clinton pushed for “safe zones” in Syria, which Obama did not create—and she advocated for US military intervention in Libya, which Obama carried out. So half the evidence presented for the claim that Clinton is more hawkish than Obama actually shows that Clinton is as hawkish as Obama.
But what is the evidence that Obama is “reticent when it comes to deploying military force” in the first place? He’s bombed at least seven countries during his time in office—Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and Libya, and drone strikes continue in all of these but Libya. The deadliest airstrikes, those against ISIS-held territory in Iraq and Syria, have killed more than 25,000 people, according to US officials.
Obama currently has troops on the ground in at least six countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Cameroon, Uganda and Yemen. In his biggest commitment of ground forces, he sent 50,000 troops to Afghanistan, doubling the US presence there. (I say “at least” because Obama has a great enthusiasm for deploying Special Forces, most of whose operations are classified.)

Map from The Atlantic showing Obama’s current military engagements.
To NPR, this level of military intervention is below average for presidents: “If Obama’s caution is, in part, a reaction to the excesses of the George W. Bush era, Clinton’s more aggressive posture might reflect a reversion to the mean.” In other words, Bush was more willing to use force than the average president, Obama was less willing and Clinton, presumably, would be just right. (Clinton wouldn’t “go overboard” because “she paid a political price for backing Bush’s invasion of Iraq in 2003, as well as the Libyan intervention in 2011″—though the political price she paid for Iraq in 2008 didn’t stop her from enthusiastically calling for an attack on Libya.)
Foggy crystal ball–gazing aside, the assertion about Obama’s below-average aggressiveness is dubious. By my count, the younger George Bush engaged in combat in five countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia. Bill Clinton bombed or sent combat troops to six: Iraq, Bosnia, Serbia, Somalia, Afghanistan and Sudan. George Bush the Elder’s military conflicts were in Iraq, Panama, Somalia and Libya. Ronald Reagan took direct military action against Grenada, Libya, Lebanon, Iran and Nicaragua (counting the CIA’s attacks on Nicaraguan ports as direct intervention). Jimmy Carter appears to have launched no military interventions, unless you include the failed hostage rescue mission in Iran.
Gerald Ford presided over the end of the wars against Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos (and sent troops subsequently to Cambodia in a disastrous effort to rescue the Mayaguez hostages). Richard Nixon waged intense war against the three Southeast Asian nations. Lyndon Johnson greatly escalated the war in Vietnam, began bombing in Cambodia and Laos, and also invaded the Dominican Republic. John Kennedy began involving US troops in Vietnamese combat, and attacked Cuba in the Bay of Pigs invasion. Eisenhower ended the Korean War, intervened in Lebanon and sent the first military advisors to Vietnam. Harry Truman presided over the end of World War II—including the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki—and the beginning of the Korean War.
So Barack Obama appears to have engaged in direct combat operations against more foreign nations than any other post–World War II president. (Let me know in a comment if I’ve missed any—history has a way of forgetting the smaller US military operations.) While the combined death tolls of his wars have probably been an order of magnitude or two lower than those of Truman, Johnson, Nixon and Bush junior, his military policy has arguably been more aggressive than Eisenhower’s, Kennedy’s, Ford’s, Carter’s or even Reagan’s (speaking strictly of direct US intervention, not the bloody Reagan Doctrine of fueling proxy wars).
Obama probably out-hawks Bush senior, given that their most intense wars (Desert Storm and ISIS) have similar death tolls, and Obama had more smaller wars; how you rank Bill Clinton depends on whether you count the deadly sanctions regime against Iraq as a part of the ongoing military operation or not.
NPR glosses over all this history, presenting Obama as a relative dove in a way that suggests that its institutional memory doesn’t reach back much before the 21st century. Its presentation of Hillary Clinton as the Goldilocks commander-in-chief—more hawkish than Obama, more dovish than George W. Bush—helps to establish the constant military intervention of the “War on Terror” era as the new normal.
CORRECTION: This article originally omitted Yemen as one of the countries where Obama has ground forces.
Jim Naureckas is the editor of FAIR.org. You can follow him on Twitter: @JNaureckas.
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I’m not much into history, but didn’t Eisenhower help overthrow the Shah in Iran in 1953 (… which caused every other conflict in the Middle East, beyond the Balfour Declaration, post WWI?)
Yea, but most Americans were never taught that one, and since it was a CIA operation it isn’t considered a “military action”. But it should be if the writer is going to include the “Bay of Pigs”, which was CIA
I included the Bay of Pigs because it directly involved US personnel (as well as Cuban exiles under the direction of the CIA). But the line between direct and indirect intervention can be quite murky. I focused on direct rather than indirect intervention not because the latter is unimportant but because it seemed easier to compare the direct intervention by various presidents.
Point taken, FAIR. But not creating a no-fly zone over Syria is a biggie. That would have meant direct confrontation with Russia over something they hold as very dear to their national interest. We should all thank our lucky stars that the adults in the room didn’t listen to Hillary at least on that one. Obama may be no dove, but at least he’s grounded in reality, which is something I can’t say for certainty about Hillary. When I saw her in that 60 Minutes interview throwing her head back and laughing about murder and destroying a country, I thought to myself that I haven’t seen that kind of sociopathic thirst for war since John McCain.
I have a feeling that we’ll all soon be wishing for the bad old days of Obama.
Don’t see how we could say that one President used less brutal imperialism then another. For since Roosevelt, every US President has pushed the expansion envelope of our Empire to the max. Empire USA all the way, glory come what may.
Even soft spoken and kindly Jimmy Carter, was he not the father of terrorism due to his importing Saudi Wahhabi extremists into Afghanistan to reek havoc on the Russian humanitarian mission?
“terrorism” existed before 1979, whatever Carter’s sins.
Daniel B: You have it exactly backwards. The Shah was re-instated in power in 1953 through a combined effort between the CIA and the British Secret Service, if I remember correctly. This action was known as Operation Ajax. The then popularly elected president of Iran was going to nationalize the mineral resources (which includes oil) of Iran in order to keep the wealth within Iran rather than being exported to the UK by the Anglo-Iranian oil company, which later became British Petroleum or just BP. So the CIA and British Secret Service pulled off a coup, the Shah was installed in power, and not being very popular, he consolidated his power by brutally removing any opposition. Later, when the Shah was ousted some 25 years later, he ran off to the loving arms of Ronald Reagan, as you may recall. Google Operation Ajax and see what you can find
Thanks for the knowledge! I’ll check it out!
Truman also sent troops to Greece in support of the royals against the anti-Nazi partisans and kept troops in the Philippines to fight the anti-Japanese partisans.
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It is easy for any body to see the pattern of US imperialism worldwide. It would take an enormous conscious no see what is very obvious.
Don’t forget Clinton’s wrecking of Ukraine and pointing her sights on Russia… while we’re ‘pivoting’ all over China… she scares me.
now I miss the Reagan years.