The gallery of covers for Time magazine this week. One stands out, obviously.
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Peter Hart was the activist director of FAIR for 15 years, as well as the co-host of FAIR's radio show CounterSpin. He is now the senior field communications officer for Food & Water Watch.
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I think it’s worth pointing out that the headline here is intended to be ironic.
Somehow this makes perfect sense since we Americans have NO clue about history or the world around us
Hay, we could hit both organised labor and the education issues with one stone;
All sing in unison please:
One of things is not like the others
One of things is not the same
three of things all belong together
but one of things is not like the others.
Anybody who reads Time or Newsweek thinking that they are going to learn about what´s happening in the world is sorely mistaken. Both are complete rags; not only are they written for someone with a grade six level, they are full of barefaced lies. USA today isn´t a whole lot better. Americans are some of the most brainwashed people on the planet. It´s no wonder that they seem to think that they own the world, and that they have a God given right to interfere wherever they see fit.
The world is such a pain in the neck.
Yeah, Don, one thing I always hear from folks here who have friends in Europe is how baffled are the Europeans with our incredible, self-flaggellating ignorance. Millions of Americans, pinned to the ground by the Corporate, monied, Conservative-reactionary boot, look up at their tormentors and say, “Press down harder please! I deserve to be treated like shit, Master. I only ask that you do the same to that guy over there who has even less than me.”
And you’re right about our major, mainstream magazines: they’re God-awful, almost comically bad in their presentation and outlook.
Well Tim lets not look to the Europeans for much.They have their own massive problems. Although on the one hand i believe that every man is my superior in that i may learn from him……I also believe that Europeans should stuff their pie holes, as there is little we can learn from them.
That said it is fascinating how TIME has proffered these different covers.Ah who cares. Times sucks anyhow. Good bathroom reading right next to PEOPLE.
I wonder how many drug company ads the US edition will run.
Yeah, that’s right Michael, those damn Europeans ought to just shut their pie-holes! Do they have the right to lecture us just because they have a higher standard of living and live longer, enjoy better medical system, better highways and infrastructure, better k-12 education systems, free higher education, longer paid vacation, better working conditions, paid maternal leave, more equally distributed national incomes, and weathered the economic collapse much better than workers in the US, all because of 60 years of foresight, intelligence, and strong labor unions?
The American worker is circling the drain while the GOP drags wages and conditions back to the 19th century and the Democrats dither. Yeah, there is little we can learn from the Europeans. You just keep thinking that when your kids are back working for a dollar for every 16 hour day.
Ross don’t know how much time you have spent traveling abroad or living but you are wrong on almost every count…because you cant count. Europe for years benefited and was’ Europe” because of us. Especially our huge military expenditures. Well the gravy train is over. Now of course they see the errors of their ways and are de socializing as quick as they can while we move the other way. England has an austerity program. Germany,France,Spain,italy all tightening their belts.I love this illusion generated from the left of Europe’s brilliance.I had this exact argument with a friend who is greek.I remember him telling me how much better the standard was in Greece.Me being one of those conservative nuts trying to drag him back to the 19th century tried to give him the figures.Now I laugh at him and say how did that work out for you. Europe in some ways did better during the collapse. Closer infrastructure and less idiocy like the sub prime moron moves. But in many ways they are far worse off. And will continue to be. Recently at the European summit they sent word that if Obama cant curb his spending they will have to move from the dollar as the standard as we are committing fiscal suicide.So let it not be said that I disagree with everything Europe believes.
Europe weathered the recession better because of less income inequality, bigger union membership and stronger safety nets.
Britian’s austerity program has already stalled their economy, Germany is next.
A picture says a thousand words. This demonstrates how deeply we are hung up on ourselves. To sum it all up for America: “As long as I feel good right now who cares about what’s going on all around us.” We Americans are all guilty of this. This explains why we are in this mess in the U.S. What’s in it for me? Me, me, What about me? Not in my back yard!!
Helen
Europe and pretty much the whole world think we are fiscally insane. They are running like hell from this insanity. You stand alone saying the way to fix it is to delve deeper into a socialist liberal- looney tune world. Spend money no one has. Deficit spend to fire the economy.Keynesian madness. Europe is toast.So are we.And for exactly the same reasons. Your best idea is more of the same?Well sometimes conversation has to end. This is a good example why this is one of those times. Our only recourse is to vote you out.We are moving on that as quickly as we can.There really is no common ground here.
Michael,
I spent 4 years living in Europe and another year in the Mid-East. I’ve traveled extensively on a fairly regular basis throughout Europe beginning in 1959. Thus, I’ve seen Europe when it was still in recovery from WW2 till the present day.
Frankly, Michael, you haven’t a clue. Sure, they are tightening their belts. Who isn’t, it’s a world-wide recession! But the fact remains that the European notion of an austerity program would strike most Americans as a worker’s paradise. Even with their belt-tightening they are still light years ahead of us in many ways.
Your comments to Helen exemplify just how clueless you are. It was the right-wing loonies starting with Reagan who ran up the debt, not the Left, and they did it intentionally, so they could use the debt as an excuse to fulfill their ideological wet dream – finally kill of the last vestiges of the New Deal, so called “big government,” wipe-out labor unions, so that they, the economic royalists, can resume their rightful place.
I see you share their lunatic dream and buy their logic entirely, despite the fact that we abandoned Keynesian economic theory decades ago.
You sound like you’re straight out of the Tea Party – the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party.
Thank you Ross, from the bottom of my heart. Expect deprecations and calumnies from Our Very Own Troll (OVOT), who never misses a chance to display his awesome ignorance. Believe me, he’s not representative of our great country (you know that), but rather carries water for the freaks amd criminals who are now attempting their final savage destruction of our democracy. A pitiful and sorry lad he is. Too bad.
Tim. you’re a fool.
you told me to shut up when I asked mike to make more senseable arguments. “just ignore the troll” you said. But as far as I see it, we just had an opposing view presented, and shot down. does this make the forum stronger or weaker?
oh, and what if you are wrong? do you want to be pursuaded otherwise, or self rightious?
Ross it is stunning that you and I who have spent so much time abroad in the same lands see things so differently.Simply put you see Europe as miles ahead of “us”.I find that ludicrous.And I see no great reverse migration back to the homelands for a better standard of living.And yes I am one of those tea party mad hatters.Those people who believe our constitution makes us uniquely suited in this competitive world and is the reason why we have risen to such heights.What an amazing document it is.What an amazing country this is. But I do not believe we cannot learn from Europe.We can. Their experiment with socialist programs has failed.
Tim you are a hater.You are a self avowed socialist.You do not seek to fix our system ,or even tweak it.You would like to replace it……..with socialist madness?And yet I AM THE TROLL?You are not even apart of the argument.You are our very own saboteur ….OVOS.
Leave this rag. Try The Economist.
Following on from my own comment from yesterday “Britian’s austerity program has already stalled their economy,” the reality is actually worse…..their forth quarter GDP was negative. Ireland’s austerity has thrown their economy into recession as well. Germany’s modest stimulus followed by austerity has now slowed their outlook.
Goldman Sachs recenty put out a report stating that if Congress went through with their spending cuts, it could shave 1.5% to 2% off the U.S. GPD. That would put us back into recession.
A Moody’s analyst just issued a report saying the GOP cuts could cost the country 700,000 jobs.
Helen the austerity programs, or better put- the putting the breaks of going further into unlimited dept. is not the problem. You cant spend money you don’t have. That is what everyone has been doing. With no thought to actually paying it back in their lifetimes. That just puts off the day of reckoning. You say their economies are not going up- they are going down.I say yes…AS EXPECTED. When you loose your job and have to tighten your belt, things do not get better until you start working again. And loading on a credit card does not count. Europe is ahead of us on realizing the danger. They are taking the bitter pill now. Recesson is just a term that means a certain amount of time in a downward trend.I think we need a new term. How about WAITSB? (We are in the shit bucket)Ok that sucks ,but you get the point.I still believe things will get worse before they can get better. That will happen when we fully swallow our bitter pill.
Carter, when did I tell you to shut up? I beseeched you to ignore You Know Who, that’s all. Actually, I’m not really sure what your talking about. (What opposing view? In this thread? You just got here, no?) Gee whiz! I’m just a humble poster here in the community who’s tryin’ to get by, to scrape by even, by my wits, and a helpful serving of ale occasionally. My advice to you is to check the archives here–get back to me with all the evidence you find that OVOT has ever (ever!) made a reasonable argument. That is all. I think. Huh?
TimN
Better put….”Tell me when any conservative has ever made a reasonable argument’. According to you and these blogs they never ever ever ever have. Well elections are the actual scale we use to judge that.We will see if the people think “we”are giving reasonable argument.In the last election cycle I believe we won that argument hands down wouldn’t you?Diversity of thought and opinion is an amazing thing- you would have to agree. Now show me that diversity on these blogs.On these articles.I want numbers mr fact check. You can not but admit there is a semblance of thought here.A hive mentality. Everyone in lockstep.I am sorry(not)that I have not joined your little religious order here.Or that I dare to call down to you that a huge majority of this country does not agree with a frigging sound that comes from your pie hole,or flows from your feeble minded fingers.
Mikey “You say their economies are not going up- they are going down.I say yesâ┚¬Ã‚¦AS EXPECTED. ”
Uh, no one in the British government expected that their austerity would send them in negative GDP.
Camerion is facing a storm of protests over his bad decision making.
The ones who EXPECTED their economy to tank were folks like Krugman. Who was right, as usual.